That Metal Show – Season 13 Finale, Episode 12: Joe Satriani, Artie Lange, Jim Breuer, Yngwie Malmsteen
MUSICAL GUEST: Yngwie Malmsteen
Yngwie became the only guest musician to perform in two episodes in one season. The guys discussed Yngwie’s book, Relentless. The book features a story about how he came to join Alcatrazz, and discusses the numerous releases that he has been a part of that people may not even know about. In the book, Yngwie talks about how his style evolved. Many people think that his neo-classical style was inspired by Ritchie Blackmore, but it was actually inspired by the playing of Genesis keyboardist, Tony Banks.
His wife/manager put together the idea for the tour that Yngwie will be doing this summer called “Guitar Gods.” Some of the guitarists joining him will be Uli Jon Roth, Bumblefoot and Gary Hoey.
TMS TOP 5: Top 5 Desert Island Hard Rock Albums
- Aerosmith – Rocks
- AC/DC – Powerage
- Van Halen – Van Halen
- Led Zeppelin – Physical Graffiti
- UFO – Strangers In The Night
GUEST: Joe Satriani
Satriani and Yngwie go back a long way. He was introduced to Yngwie’s music by Kirk Hammet. When he first listened to it, he was convinced that somebody sped up the tape. He was giving guitar lessons at the time, and admitted that even he couldn’t play Yngwie’s style. Eddie mentioned that Satriani and Yngwie are two of the most successful artists that have thrived doing mainly instrumental music.
Jim asked if the transition into a full band like Chickenfoot was difficult. Satriani said that they just focused on highlighting the best of what each member brought to the table.
Satriani discussed his book, Strange Beautiful Music, his latest album – Unstoppable Momentum and his incredibly innovative Chrome Dome box set, which features a chrome statue of his head wearing sunglasses. The removable sunglasses contain two USB drives that hold his entire studio catalog (available on www.Satriani.com).
One of the things that he loved about the book is hearing the stories about himself and his various projects from a different angle because it was through the prism of other peoples’ perspectives.
Right after his album Surfing With The Alien came out, Satriani was struggling with figuring out how to be a solo instrumental artist. His big break came when he received a call to audition to open for Mick Jagger on a solo show at The Bottom Line in New York City. He ended up touring with him for several months, and learned what it meant to be a rock star.
While there is nothing planned as of this moment, the hope is that Chickenfoot will record another album when everyone’s schedules align.
He will be going back out on tour overseas this summer in support of Unstoppable Momentum, but before he leaves, he’s going to be playing in Westbury on Long Island (back where it all started).
GUESTS: Comedians Artie Lange and Jim Breuer
This was the first time on the show for the comedians, who are both huge fans of the show.
Artie Lange said that it is his favorite show on television. A favorite quote about the show of Jim’s was when Lange said…“I’ve never seen a show where you treat the former drummer of the Scorpions (Herman Rarebell) like he was Tom Cruise on The Tonight Show.”
Lange, who has battled drug addiction for many years, loved watching the show during his last stint in rehab. According to Lange…“Nothing is better for heroin withdrawals than this show.”
He talked about his first concert being the AC/DC Back In Black tour at the age of 14. His friend’s older brother gave him what he thought was Coca Cola, but it turned out to be Jack Daniels and Coke. He also talked about how times were different back in the day and told a story about when he was at a Yankee game with his father as a kid in the late 1970’s; his father’s friend asked him to hold his beer while he rolled a joint.
Lange has a nightly show on DirecTV called The Artie Lange Show. His second book, Crash and Burn, is coming out on paperback in June. He is also going to be filming a Comedy Central special in Newark, NJ.
Jim Breuer often watches the show while traveling on planes. He talked about how he is very loud while wearing headphones and agreeing with things that are said on the show, usually while the person next to him is watching cooking shows or something else much tamer than That Metal Show.
Breuer’s first metal concert was Iron Maiden and Judas Priest at the Nassau Coliseum. He talked about how people threw lit M-80’s at the show. He was also at the show that got Priest banned from Madison Square Garden after the fans ripped out the seats and threw them around like Frisbees.
Breuer is in the process of recording a metal album as a singer. It is being produced by Volbeat’s Rob Caggiano. He jammed with Brian Johnson during the recording session, the same night that Johnson played with Billy Joel at Madison Square Garden.
His upcoming plans include: Rock On The Range and a Motorhead Cruise. His comedy special – And Laughter For All – is available for download on Netflix, and he has a new album coming out in the fall on Metal Blade Records. Breuer will be doing both a comedy and a metal set at Rock On the Range.
At the end of the interview, before “Stump The Trunk,” Eddie revealed that Breuer was actually the one who came up with the concept for the segment when they did it on Breuer’s radio show.
PUT IT ON THE TABLE: Joe Satriani
If you could be in any other band – The Jimi Hendrix Experience (playing tambourine, just to be in the band)
One song you wish you wrote – “Third Stone From The Sun” – by Jimi Hendrix
One vice – Wise potato chips.
Best concert you ever attended – Rolling Stones in Oakland last year
First album you bought with your own money– Are You Experienced? By Jimi Hendrix
First rock or metal song that you learned how to play – “Communication Breakdown” by Led Zeppelin
Weirdest news story or rumor that you’ve heard about yourself – That I am actually Voldemort
Favorite new band – The Winery Dogs
PICK OF THE WEEK:
Eddie – Raven – Rock Until You Drop documentary DVD
Jim – Hatriot – Dawn Of The New Centurion
Don – Kyng – Trampled Sun
THROWDOWN: AC/DC’s “For Those About To Rock” vs. “Highway To Hell” (songs, not albums).
Satriani – “Highway To Hell”
Breuer – “For Those About to Rock”
Lange – “For Those About To Rock”
Eddie – “Highway To Hell” (original pick) changed to “For Those About To Rock” (when he realized that it was songs not albums)
Jim – “For Those About To Rock”
Don – “Highway To Hell”
This wraps up Season 13 of That Metal Show. Check out the links below for recaps of every episode from this past season. Stay tuned for a Hard Rock Daddy interview with Eddie, Jim and Don in the near future!
MUSICAL GUEST: Yngwie Malmsteen
Eddie revealed that Yngwie was the one who inspired the idea for musical guests. Yngwie says that he never practices. He only picks up the guitar if he can blow himself away. However, he did practice for TMS because it was an important appearance for him. New live video and live album coming out from the last tour soon. Yngwie also has a full line of Fender equipment coming out soon.
The guys discussed the untimely passing of GWAR’s Dave Brockie (a.k.a. Oderus Urungus).
TMS TOP 5: Top 5 Greatest Trios
- The Jimi Hendrix Experience
- ZZ Top
GUEST: The Winery Dogs (Richie Kotzen, Mike Portnoy, Billy Sheehan)
Eddie’s favorite current trio. He had a hand in their formation. Mike Portnoy and Billy Sheehan were working on a project with John Sykes that ultimately didn’t pan out. Eddie recommended Richie Kotzen to the guys, and The Winery Dogs were formed.
The Winery Dogs are all huge TMS fans, so much so that Portnoy was disappointed that they had to leave for their gig in NYC that night. They are the only band that has had every member appear on TMS as a musical guest. They wanted to be the first band to ever play on the show, but were unable to because of publishing restrictions.
The band is about to embark on the second leg of the tour, and will be out on the road this year through the summer.
Kotzen has played in bands before (Mr. Big, Poison), but has been a solo artist for a number of years. Eddie discussed a conversation that the two had backstage at a show in New Jersey. Kotzen asked if there were people out there, and Eddie told him that it was sold out. A surprised Kotzen shook his and said…“I’m not used to success.”
Jim asked if there would be a second Winery Dogs record, and the guys said that they have already started writing.
The band discussed the origin of the name Winery Dogs. They are dogs that are used to protect wineries from intruders. The writing of the music came easily to them, but naming the band was very difficult. Before settling on The Winery Dogs, the band briefly was going under a name that Kotzen came up with…Zen Vida.
In one of the funniest segments in recent memory, the band discussed their special edition deluxe box set called Dog Treats. The set comes with a lot of cool stuff. The funny part came as Portnoy was showing everything and Kotzen seemed to be seeing it for the first time as he was surprised by what was in the package. When Kotzen started asking questions about the set, Portnoy told him that he’d have to buy it if he wanted to find out what was in it.
GUEST: Vinnie Paul (Hellyeah, Pantera)
This is the 20th anniversary of the release of Pantera’s Far Beyond Driven (the first true heavy metal record to reach #1 on the Billboard charts). What makes the success of the record so incredible is that the band got no love from MTV, radio or the media. Their only publicity came from heavy metal magazines and the fans. Perhaps even more incredible is the fact that the album came out during the peak of grunge when metal was considered a four-letter word. The classic album is being reissued in honor of the anniversary.
Paul talked about their first time playing Donnington, England and what a memorable day it was. However, their European success did not come easily. The first time that they toured Europe, opening for Judas Priest, the fans hated them. They swore that they would never go back there, but were convinced by their manager when they were offered an opening slot with Megadeth after a buzz about the band started happening in Europe.
His current band, Hellyeah, has a new record coming out called Blood For Blood. The band will be touring after the album comes out with Avenged Sevenfold.
Paul discussed the fact that his presence in the band did not mean instant success. This is the band’s fourth album, and he feels that they are finally on the brink of something big.
When Eddie asked Paul to address the rumors about a Pantera reunion with Zakk Wylde on guitar, he summarily dismissed it, saying that there is no Pantera without Dime.
PUT IT ON THE TABLE: Vinnie Paul
As Don started to ask the lightning round questions, Eddie interrupted to let the audience know that this segment has finally gotten a sponsor – Just For Men. This is an important step in ensuring that the show remains on the air. Paul said (while stroking his facial hair…“Nothing is more metal than Just For Men. I use a lot of it.”)
If you could be in any other band – Van Halen (as the singer)
One song you wish you wrote – “Blind In Texas” – by W.A.S.P.
One vice –No matter what I’m doing, I’m all about having a good time (playing drums, drinking, gambling, etc.)
Best concert you ever attended – Two years ago, at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas – Rammstein.
Favorite new band – Chino Marino’s new band, Crosses.
Tying into the Just For Men theme, Eddie asked Paul about his worst haircut ever. Paul said that his worst was when he shaved off his signature facial hair, and ended up looking like Blackie Lawless.
The best part of the segment was seeing Eddie, Don and Jim with their long hair back in the day. Classic!
STUMP THE TRUNK:
Eddie was on point, getting every question but one correct. The only question that he missed was by a fan from Ireland. He watches the show on YouTube, as the show is not available in Europe. After he stumped Eddie, Jennifer did not come out with the box. Instead, she came out with Billy Sheehan’s bass guitar signed by the members of The Winery Dogs.
PICK OF THE WEEK – ON THE FRINGES:
Eddie – Farmikos (featuring former Ozzy and David Lee Roth guitarist, Joe Holmes).
Jim – Scar The Martyr (featuring Joey Jordison of Slipknot).
Don – IKILLYA (Vae Victis) – Lamb of God type music.
METAL MODEM: Michael Poulsen (Volbeat)
Poulsen appeared via Skype from Denmark. He is home right now getting ready for a new U.S. tour. Don asked him the following question…
“On a scale from 1-10, how important was it for you to go out on tour with Metallica?”
“That’s a very stupid question.” It sounds harsh out of context, but it was actually very funny.
Poulsen talked about the bands that are going out with them on the road. This time around they’re taking Trivium, and they have taken out Hellyeah in the past. He said that they would do more shows with Hellyeah in the future.
The show closed with an extended, inspired solo performance by Yngwie. This episode stood out because all of the guests were such big TMS fans.
MUSICAL GUEST: Richard Christy
Christy is known by the masses for his work on The Howard Stern Show, but he is also an accomplished drummer. The guys talked about his reputation for not showering. He said that the longest that he’s ever gone was two weeks when he lived inside of a storage unit. Christy also discussed wearing a diaper to concerts because he drinks a lot and doesn’t want to miss any of the songs. The diapers don’t really work for him anyway because adult diapers are not meant to absorb tons of liquid. He is currently working on his third record with his band, Charred Walls Of The Damned.
TAKE IT OR TAKE IT: Concert Double Bills with Co-Headliners
Jim – Take it because the prices are so high, that you want to get your money’s worth.
Don – Takes it for the same reason as Jim. Both discussed that they get to discover the new bands by going to club shows.
Eddie – Leaves it because he likes the exposure of being turned onto something new and it takes away from the big buildup of the headliner taking the stage. The other reason that he leaves it is because the co-headliners both end up playing abbreviated sets that are mostly hit-driven.
TMS TOP 5: Top 5 KISS Songs of the 70’s (original lineup)
- “Detroit Rock City”
- “Shock Me”
- “Black Diamond”
GUEST: Peter Criss
Criss came on and started out by evaluating the TMS Top 5. He said that his favorite songs to play were “Strutter” and “Nothin’ To Lose.” Don asked him if the setlist was done by democracy back in the day, and he said that it was, which is hard to imagine given the power that Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley wield nowadays.
Eddie asked him about the time that they spent getting ready with makeup. Criss said that it was a very therapeutic time. They would all bond and listen to music through a boombox that they brought with them. The whole procedure to get ready was limited to the band and their manager Bill Aucoin, and it really got them ready to play.
Criss credits Aucoin for KISS ever reaching their pinnacle. He said that he was like a father figure to all of them, and when they were fighting, he would lock them in a room until they all made up. The process worked. Eddie said that it’s too bad that Aucoin is no longer with us because he might be the only one who could settle the current dispute going on surrounding KISS’s Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction.
After 15 years of waiting, Criss said that he felt that they should have been voted in long ago, however, he still is honored to finally be getting inducted.
He and Ace Frehley hadn’t played together for 13 years, until reconnecting at Eddie’s 25th Radio anniversary party. There were hurt feelings over what Criss wrote in his book Makeup to Breakup: My Life In and Out of KISS. At the party, Ace gave him a hug and apologized for getting crazy and said that the things that he wrote in the book were all true. He still thinks of Ace as his brother. He was nervous to play with him again because he hadn’t played in so long due to leaving KISS and suffering from male breast cancer. All of the guys were wearing male breast cancer ribbons to show their support. Because of all of the work that Criss has done to raise awareness, The Beauty Foundation For Cancer Care has created the Peter Criss Man Of Courage Award.
The interview wrapped up with Eddie asking Criss about the drama surrounding the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame induction.
He said that he was very excited when he got the call telling him that KISS was finally getting inducted. He attributes the amazing life that he’s had to KISS fans, and said that for him, KISS has always been about the fans. Things started out well, but quickly deteriorated after he got a call from Gene and Paul (neither of whom called him during his cancer battle). They offered congratulations, but took everything with a grain of salt because of all of the bad blood between them.
Criss is heartbroken over the fact that they are not going to be performing at the ceremony. He would have been happy to get back into the cat costume because it is his persona. He couldn’t imagine sitting there and watching someone else wearing his makeup and performing. He had no desire to be there watching someone else performing with his costume. Not only would it be wrong, but also disrespectful to KISS fans around the world.
To Criss, there is only one band in the world…KISS. That is the reason that he never joined another band. He absolutely would bury the hatchet and play for one night. He cannot understand how Gene and Paul would refuse to give 10 minutes of their time for the 40 years of support that fans have given to them, which also helped them all to enjoy an extraordinary lifestyle. His cancer has given him a new perspective on life…“you have to forgive to live.”
PUT IT ON THE TABLE: Peter Criss
If you could be in any other band – The Rolling Stones
One song you wish you wrote – “Imagine” – by John Lennon
One vice – Oreo cookies
Weirdest rumor you’ve heard about yourself – That I was sleeping in the toilets of Santa Monica. The story appeared in Star Magazine, and it wasn’t true at all. His mother had just passed away, and he was out of touch. He got a call from his drum company telling him about the story. Roseanne Barr and Tom Arnold were fans of his, and they ended up driving around the streets looking to help him out. Ultimately, Criss and his wife ended up becoming good friends with Barr and Arnold.
Favorite new band – The Winery Dogs.
Eddie – Vain – Enough Rope
Jim – Epic – Zombie Hunters Inc.
Don – His own comedy album
THROWDOWN: KISS Alive I vs. KISS Alive II
Peter – Alive I
Richard – Alive I
Eddie – Alive I
Jim – Alive I
Don – Alive I
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MUSICAL GUEST: Chris Caffery
The Savatage/TSO (Trans-Siberian Orchestra) guitarist discussed a show that TSO played on New Year’s Eve at the Berlin Gates for two million people. Jim Florentine asked Caffery how it felt to go from playing for two million people to 60 (in the TMS audience). Caffery talked about what an awesome honor it was to be on TMS – the greatest show on TV. When asked if there would be another Savatage tour, Caffery said that they would like to, but they’ve been so busy with TSO that it’s hard to find the time.
TAKE IT OR TAKE IT: Ronnie James Dio Tribute Album (This Is Your Life)
The segment, normally called Take It Or Leave It, was renamed for this week only because there was no possible way that anyone would leave it when it comes to a Ronnie James Dio Tribute album. All of the proceeds from the album will go to Dio’s cancer fund. The album features performances by Killswitch Engage, Metallica, Corey Taylor, Doro, Lemmy w/ Biff Byford, Adrenaline Mob, Glenn Hughes and more. The final track on the album is the title track performed by Ronnie James Dio.
TMS TOP 5: Top 5 Scariest Hard Rock and Metal Songs
- “Black Sabbath” by Black Sabbath
- “Dead Skin Mask” by Slayer
- “Welcome To My Nightmare” by Alice Cooper
- “Welcome Home” by King Diamond
- “God Of Thunder” by KISS
GUEST: Dee Snider
The Twisted Sister frontman is working a number of projects. His radio show, House Of Hair, is in its 17th year and is now heard on over 220 radio stations. Twisted Sister is doing festivals this coming summer. Snider started his own line of clothes with The Saints Sinphony. He wrote a musical called Dee Snider’s Rock and Roll Christmas Tale. There will be eight shows per week this Christmas season, starting in Chicago with plans to hopefully bring it to Broadway the following year. He is the narrator of the show.
Snider revealed that a lot of bands that open for Twisted Sister now have actually sold more records than them, but because the band plays so few shows per year, there is a great demand to see them.
Age doesn’t seem to have any effect on Snider. He turned 59 on the night that the show aired, but he could easily pass for someone in their late 40’s.
When the discussion turned to Snider’s book – Shut Up And Give Me The Mic – he took some not-so-subtle shots at Nikki Sixx, claiming that the people that he knew on heroin couldn’t find their own dicks, much less a pen to write down all of their thoughts as Sixx did in The Heroin Diaries. Snider said that the real struggles and trials and tribulations of someone trying to make it as a rock star on Long Island were not nearly as scintillating as stories about heroin. His book shows both the meteoric rise and colossal fall of Twisted Sister and the impact that it had on him. At one point, things had gotten so bad financially that he was riding a bicycle to work at a low-paying desk job after filing a tax return that showed zero income for an entire year.
RANK: Led Zeppelin albums (one of Dee Snider’s favorite bands)
Before ranking the albums on the rack, Snider immediately discarded In Through The Out Door (which was somewhat surprising) and Coda (which was not at all surprising). The rest of the albums were ranked as follows:
- Led Zeppelin II
- Led Zeppelin I
- Led Zeppelin IV
- Led Zeppelin III
- Physical Graffiti
- Houses Of The Holy
PUT IT ON THE TABLE: Dee Snider
If you could be in any other band – AC/DC
One song you wish you wrote – “For Those About To Rock (We Salute You)” – by AC/DC
Best concert you ever attended – Mott The Hoople with Queen on Queen’s first tour at the Uris Theater.
Weirdest rumor you’ve heard about yourself – That I’m gay, but that’s kind of expected, and also that I’m a breeder of Shitzu dogs.
Favorite new band – A New Jersey band called The Parlor Mob.
PICK OF THE WEEK – ON THE SHELF:
Eddie – KXM – new project by Dug Pinnick (King’s X), George Lynch and Ray Luzier (Korn).
Don – Mount Salem (Endless)
Jim – Throwdown and Generation Kill (We’re All Gonna Die)
METAL MODEM: Glenn Hughes
Hughes is working with Jason Bonham on a new project called California Breed, formed after Black Country Communion disbanded. The other member of the band is Andrew Watt. Watt is a guitarist and vocalist who was introduced to Hughes by Julian Lennon. The first videos of the band debut next week. In the band’s recording sessions, Hughes sang the songs live with the intention of overdubbing the vocals later. However, the producer liked the live vocals so much that they ended up being the ones used on the album. Hughes revealed that he writes music on a daily basis.
THROWDOWN: Under The Blade vs. You Can’t Stop Rock And Roll
Chris – Under The Blade
Dee – You Can’t Stop Rock And Roll
Eddie – Under The Blade
Jim – Under The Blade
Don – You Can’t Stop Rock And Roll
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MUSICAL GUEST: Tom Keifer
When asked how it feels to be on That Metal Show vs being on David Letterman, Keifer responded… “it feels good to not be in HD tonight.” He is still touring in support of his first solo record The Way Life Goes. He will be continuing the solo tour this year and releasing more singles from the record. Keifer was playing a very cool guitar made out of metal. The only Cinderella performance this year will be on the Monsters Of Rock Cruise. However, half of his solo set consists of Cinderella favorites.
TMS TOP 5: Top 5 Mötley Crüe Songs
The guys were joined by Metal Church’s Kurt Vanderhoof for this segment. Vanderhoof offered his Top 5 Mötley Crüe songs to help shape the following list…
- “Live Wire”
- “Looks That Kill”
- “Dr. Feelgood”
- “Kickstart My Heart”
- “Wild Side”
Honorable mention – “Shout At The Devil”
GUEST: Mick Mars
Eddie called Mick the unsung hero of Mötley Crüe. Mars revealed that he has been writing with others, and will be releasing his own material in conjunction with a book when the band’s final tour is completed. Although there is some skepticism on the part of the guys, Mars swears that this will be the end of Mötley Crüe. He said that the band truly wants to go out on top.
Mars revealed that he thought about leaving the band during the Generation Swine days. He had a hard time coming up with guitar parts for the album. Contrary to rumors, he had no issue with John Corabi contributing guitar parts during his time in the band. In fact, it pushed him to be a better guitarist.
Eddie asked Mars about the final show ever for the band. He said that it will be in Los Angeles, and if he had his way, they would just shut down Sunset Strip with no permission or permits, set up on top of the Whiskey a Go Go and just play. While it’s unlikely that this will ever happen, it would be the coolest parting shot ever by a band that has made a living by breaking the rules.
When asked about what it felt like to open for Ozzy on the Shout At Devil Tour, Mars simply stated that he can’t remember much from those days because he was pretty high. He said that one of his favorite tours was with Mötley Crüe, Van Halen and AC/DC.
Mars discussed his health issues (he has been diagnosed with Ankylosing Spondylitis). For all of the pain that his condition causes him, Mars is in remarkably high spirits, and has chosen not to use painkillers to help him cope.
PUT IT ON THE TABLE: Mick Mars
If you could be in any other band – Motorhead
One song you wish you wrote – I haven’t written it yet
Your one vice – M&Ms
Best concert you ever attended – Rob Zombie
First album bought with your own money – “Rave Up” by The Yardbirds
First rock or metal song you learned to play – “Smoke On The Water” by Deep Purple
Favorite new band – I haven’t formed it yet
PICK OF THE WEEK – SHIT THAT WE READ:
Eddie – Long Shot by Mike Piazza
Don – Louder Than Hell: The Definitive Oral History Of Metal by Jon Wiederhorn
Jim – The Awesome Guide To Life by Jason Ellis
THROWDOWN: Too Fast For Love vs. Shout At The Devil
Kurt – Too Fast For Love
Tom – Too Fast For Love
Mick – Too Fast For Love
Eddie – Too Fast For Love
Jim – Shout At The Devil
Don – Too Fast For Love
MUSICAL GUEST: Lita Ford
Lita was the first guest ever on the show, and now she is the first female musical guest. She has a new book coming out that chronicles her entire life, and confirmed that people will be mad at her, the sign of a good book. She is currently working on a new album with Gary Hoey.
TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT: No KISS performance at the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame induction ceremony.
Jim – Take it. Jim would rather see no KISS than the current lineup play.
Don – Leave it. Can’t understand why the current lineup would play when the original lineup is the one being inducted.
Eddie – Leave it. Sees both sides of it, but wishes that the original band would play a song or two together. Eddie blames the RRHOF for waiting so long to induct the band. If they had done it when they were eligible, they would have had the original band playing because they were together at that time.
Founding member of Foreigner was recently inducted into the Songwriters Hall Of Fame. Like KISS, Mick feels that Foreigner is also being disrespected by the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame, and it’s become a bit of a thorn in his side. He revealed that even he was surprised at the success of the band’s debut album. They started outselling all of the top bands like The Rolling Stones and Led Zeppelin fairly quickly, and toured arenas faster than most bands.
Like many bands with a transcendent ballad, Foreigner often times got lumped in with soft rock bands because of it. Mick discussed what it was like to play the song in front of a German metal festival crowd. He said that it was a tough crowd, but they were crying out for the song to be played.
Foreigner will be doing a big summer tour this year with Styx and Don Felder.
The legendary Mountain guitarist was already seated when the show came back from commercial. Leslie had the bottom half of his right leg amputated in 2011 after complications from diabetes.
Eddie brought up the fact that Leslie and Mick had history together. It turns out that the duo played in a band together. Leslie’s short version of the story is that he fired him and Mick went on to start Foreigner and sell 100 million albums. The two seem to have a genuine bond with no hard feelings over the firing.
Leslie has influenced numerous modern-day guitarists, one of them being Zakk Wylde who thinks of him as a father figure.
A number of Leslie’s songs have been used as samples in current hip-hop songs. He is the number 2 artist sampled by hip-hop artists (second only to Billy Squier).
PUT IT ON THE TABLE:
If you could be in any other band – Led Zeppelin
Song you wish you wrote – “Wind Cries Mary” by Jimi Hendrix
One vice – Shoes
Best concert you ever attended – The Beatles, while he was on the bill with them in Paris. He saw the show from the side of the stage.
Favorite new band – Queens Of The Stone Age
If you could be in any other band – Foreigner
Song you wish you wrote – “Crossroads” by Cream
One vice – McVitie’s digestive biscuits from England
Best concert you ever attended – The Beatles at the Paramount Theater in New York.
Favorite new band – Black Keys
ON THE FRINGES: Bands/albums that are on the fringe of hard rock and heavy metal
Eddie – Soul Asylum
Don – Ministry – Enjoy The Quiet: Live at Wacken 2012
Jim – Monte Pittman and Scott Conti
METAL MODEM: Marty Friedman (ex- Megadeth)
Marty is currently living in Japan and speaks fluent Japanese. His latest solo album – Inferno – is coming out this spring. This will be his first worldwide release in a long time, and will be touring the world in support of it. He talked about how flattered he was to be in the company of Mick, Leslie and Lita. He is an unorthodox guitar player, and he marvels at the solo that Mick did on “Hot Blooded.” The one thing that he misses most about living in America is cereal…“stuff like Crunch Berries simply doesn’t exist here.”
THE THROWDOWN: Foreigner I vs Foreigner II
Lita – I
Mick – I
Leslie – I
Eddie – I
Jim – I
Don – II
Musical Guest – Charlie Benante (Anthrax)
During the show it was revealed that the thrash drummer is something of a renaissance man. To the casual observer, you would not know that he was a drummer if you tuned in during the break where he was jamming on guitar. He also drew the cover art for an S.O.D. album cover. Benante discussed the next Anthrax album, and said that it will probably come out in 2015.
Eddie discussed AC/DC news. Brian Johnson told Eddie that there will be a new album in 2014, and a 40-city tour to coincide with the band’s 40th anniversary.
TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT: AC/DC Album & Tour
Jim – Take it. Loved the Black Ice album and tour. Thought that it was the best album in tour in the last 20 years, so he was excited that they’ll be putting out new music and coming back around.
Don – Takes the tour, but could leave a new album. Feels like there are at least 15 mandatory songs that the band must play from their catalog, and doesn’t see the need for new material. Said that the Black Ice tour might have been the best show that he’s seen in his life.
Eddie – Take it. They are one of the all-time great bands, and thinks that it’s still special to see them because they don’t come around that often. Eddie said that he heard some rumblings that somebody may have to sit the tour out because of some health issues.
TMS Top 5: Guests that the guys want to appear on the show
Maybe the most interesting TMS Top 5 ever because it gave you an inside look at what the guys are thinking. This list excludes Gene Simmons, Paul Stanley and Ozzy Osbourne, all of whom say that they have no interest in being on the show. None of the guys chose Ritchie Blackmore because he has stated that he will not talk about Rainbow or Deep Purple.
- Eddie Van Halen
- Steven Tyler
- Jimmy Page
- Angus & Malcolm Young
- James Hetfield
Lamb Of God’s Randy Blythe & Chris Adler
The band started out 20 years ago playing in basement parties for beer. They said that they never thought it would get any better than playing CBGB’s. Eddie discussed the band’s loyal fanbase that has been built up over the years because they don’t have a signature song or album. Chris said that they’re a career band and their fans are career fans. They have never tried to write a single, which they believe helped create a different kind of fanbase.
Upcoming film about band called As The Palaces Burn. The original intent of the movie was to showcase the fans of the band, but things changed when Blythe was arrested in Prague, Czech Republic by a SWAT team because of a fan that fell from the stage two years prior, went into a coma and subsequently died. Blythe was charged with manslaughter. The band had no recollection of the incident. The tour date seemed like every other show.
The band needed to raise $400,000 in total for Blythe’s bail. They sold off equipment and did whatever they could to raise the money. Blythe ended up spending 37 days locked up in Prague in general population before making bail.
After making bail, he was able to come back to the United States. Of his own accord, he returned to Prague to stand trial and face his accusers. He truly believed that it was a tragic accident caused a number of events. The victim’s own uncle said that the band wasn’t at fault. Blythe wanted to speak to the family to give them answers to their questions. He felt that he was the only one that could address the questions, and wanted to do whatever he could to alleviate their pain. He ended up meeting with the family afterwards, but he says that he’ll never reveal the conversation publicly.
Ultimately, the family wanted the band to be a spokesperson for safer shows for the fans.
Blythe has a book coming out early next year called Dark Days, which reveals all of the things that happened in prison where cameras are not allowed. The band is planning on getting back into the studio by the end of the year, and mixing in a handful of dates.
Adler discussed that he’ll be spending time taking his kid to school in his Prius.
PUT IT ON THE TABLE
If you could be in any other band – Marvin Gaye’s band, and I would be Marvin Gaye
Song you wish you wrote – “Sexual Healing”
First album you bought with your own money – “1984” – Van Halen
Weirdest rumor about you – I’ve been dead three times.
If you could be in any other band – Mustache (Swedish rock band)
Song you wish you wrote – “Rust In Peace” – Megadeth
First album you bought with your own money – “Speak English Or Die” – S.O.D.
Weirdest rumor about you – That my beard is from Party City.
METAL MODEM – Aaron Jonathan Black (Scorpion Child)
Describes the band’s sound as Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple. The heavy early 70’s vibe. Scott Gorham (Black Star Riders, Thin Lizzy) introduces the new animation video for “King’s Highway.”
(Best Big Four Album – “Master Of Puppets” – Metallica, “Among The Living”- Anthrax, “Peace Sells” – Megadeth, “Reign In Blood” – Slayer)
Charlie – “Among The Living”
Chris– “Peace Sells”
Randy – “Reign In Blood”
Eddie – “Master Of Puppets”
Jim – “Master Of Puppets”
Don – “Among The Living”
That Metal Show – Season 13, Episode 5: Alter Bridge’s Myles Kennedy and Mark Tremonti, Matt Nathanson, Steve Brown
Musical Guest – Steve Brown
Alter Bridge’s Myles Kennedy & Mark Tremonti
Alter Bridge is about to tour Japan, and Myles is in the process of recording a new Slash album as well. All of the guys say that Fortress is Alter Bridge’s best and heaviest album to date. Myles talked about how, even though he is the frontman of two bands, his first love is guitar. He feels completely lost without a guitar. Tremonti talked about the fact that Myles is an accomplished guitar player, and the two discussed their writing process.
Eddie brought up the fact that Alter Bridge is a monster band in Europe touring arenas. They became big as a new band because Creed never really played in Europe. They used to play small clubs in Europe.
Myles talked about joining a band that was made up of three quarters of Creed.
Eddie and the guys were in awe of the fact that Myles played some Led Zeppelin songs with Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones and Jason Bonham for a potential project.
Tremonti talked about Myles’ reaction to being asked to play with the guys from Led Zeppelin, how he was almost in tears from the experience. Tremonti also talked about his solo project that allows him to tap into his speed metal roots. They also discussed the fact that Wolfgang Van Halen is the bass player in the band.
Alter Bridge discussed doing festivals in the U.S., and then also doing big things in Europe.
Matt Nathanson (Singer, songwriter, devout metalhead)
The guys got turned on to Matt because he wore a TMS t-shirt for his performance on The Tonight Show.
Nathanson said that TMS is his favorite thing about television. He feels like he learns about new artists and expands his horizons because of the recommendations made on the show. He doesn’t play metal because he’s not a very good guitar player, and his vocal range is fairly limited. Also, he had to be a solo artist because he doesn’t have the patience for band politics. By his own admission, he is not a team player.
His metal “gateway drug” was KISS. He talked about how his cat pissed on all of his 70’s KISS records and destroyed them. He was also a huge fan of the first four Def Leppard albums, and worshipped at the alter of Van Halen, admitting that he is one of the few who loved the Gary Cherone era of Van Halen.
He talked about wanting to dress up as KISS without makeup for Halloween, but his band wouldn’t go for it.
PUT IT ON THE TABLE
If you could be in any other band – Showing my jazz geekiness, I’d play guitar in Steely Dan.
Song you wish you wrote – “Happy Birthday”
One vice – Angry Birds
Best concert you ever saw – Jeff Buckley in 1995 (500 people)
Favorite new group – Rival Sons
If you could be in any other band – I’d be the third guitarist in Metallica (Iron Maiden style).
Song you wish you wrote – “The Way It Is” – Bruce Hornsby
Best concert you ever saw – Rage Against The Machine at Nova Rock (as an opener).
One vice – Occasional alcohol binge.
Favorite new group – Witchcraft
If you could be in any other band – Go back in time, put a vice grip on my nuts, and take Michael Anthony’s place in Van Halen.
Song you wish you wrote – “Photograph” by Def Leppard
One vice – Don’t really have one, but I love porn.
Best concert you ever saw – Rage Against The Machine, their 3rd show ever was played in the mailroom of my college (200 people).
Favorite new group – The Sword
PICK OF THE WEEK (Shit that they read)
Eddie – For Facts Sake – by Bob Daisley
Don – The Strange Case Of The Flying Meatballs – by Alex Mitchell
Jim – Revolver, Metal Hammer, Classic Rock (magazines)
METAL MODEM – Klaus Meine & Rudolph Schenker (Scorpions)
Live from their studio in Germany. Although it is not entirely clear, the release of MTV Unplugged – Live In Athens seems to have put an end to the retirement talk from the band. Even though That Metal Show is on VH-1 (part of the MTV family), Eddie Trunk brought up the fact the people may be surprised to hear that the Scorpions had anything to do with MTV Unplugged because of what the station has become in the states. Apparently, in Greece, MTV is still the MTV that once existed in the U.S. Klaus said that the 80’s were his favorite era of Scorpions, not only for the band, but just for the state of hard rock in general. There is hope that they will tour again in the United States. The band seems to be re-energized by all of the young fans that are coming out to see them.
Rudy also discussed a Schenker Brothers record in the future.
The Throwdown (Van Halen I vs. Van Halen II)
Myles – I
Matt – II
Eddie – I
Jim – II
Don – II
Musical Guest – Gary Hoey
Aside from impressive guitar playing, one of the things that stood out about Hoey was the true deference that he showed to Eddie Trunk, Don Jamieson and Jim Florentine about the importance of That Metal Show. You can tell that he was truly honored to be a musical guest on the show. His latest release is entitled Deja Blues, a blues album with metal influence. Currently working on a new Lita Ford album.
TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT – Bands using fake tracks in their live sets.
Jim – Leave it, but is somewhat accepting if they have to use some to be able to reproduce the sound live. His opinion was focused more on older bands who might not be able to cut it live anymore as they age.
Don – Leave it. The live experience is all about hearing the missed notes and off-key vocals. His opinion is that if you can’t handle it anymore, then it might to time to stop touring.
Eddie – Agrees with Don 100%. What makes a show live is living with the imperfections. He has no issue with a band bringing extra musicians on tour to create the live sound, so long as the band doesn’t attempt to hide the extra musician backstage.
TMS Top 5 – Ted Nugent Songs
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Great White Buffalo
- Wango Tango
For the first time ever, Uncle Ted (Ted Nugent)!
Uncle Ted is the ultimate crazy uncle. Comes out and immediately takes credit for perfecting “love songs” and the middle finger.
Started playing in bands at 10 yrs old at a malt shop for free malts. Talked about his early inspirations to play music: Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, The Ventures, Duane Eddy, Dick Dale and The Del Tones.
Just like Hoey, Nugent has tremendous respect for TMS because the show is about celebrating the music. He never got into music to become a rock star. With all due respect to his fans, he plays for himself, which is one of the reasons that he’s always surrounding himself with the best musicians.
His musical goal was to be as tight as James Brown, as intense as Johnny B. Goode, to take Howling Wolf’s dirty down, emotional defiance factor to create cohesiveness as musicians.
Eddie brought up that the fact that Nugent is widely talked about nowadays for hunting and other non-music aspects of his life, but that his catalog of music is incredible. Nugent said that he doesn’t feel that way, that the music continues to touch people and that at 65 yrs old, he’s having a great time playing music.
Eddie asked where the influence for Nugent’s live show came from. Nugent credits Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry, Les Paul and the founding black, bluesy, soulful guys for exuding the thing that brought the British Invasion. Interesting take on the true roots of hard rock and metal.
Nugent revealed that he played bass for both Chuck Berry and Bo Diddley.
For someone who has never touched drugs or alcohol, Nugent still manages to seem a bit high on something. His feelings about drug users in general are very harsh, but you have to respect someone who doesn’t promote the glamour of drugs and rock and roll.
Nugent has a new CD/DVD called Ultra Live Ballistic Rock.
Ted ended the show by borrowing one of Hoey’s guitars and taking over as the musical guest.
PUT IT ON THE TABLE
If you could be in any other band – Guitar player for James Browns Famous Flames
Song you wish you wrote – “I Can’t Drive 55” – Sammy Hagar (claims that he drives faster in parking lots than Sammy does on the highway)
First rock or metal song you learned how to play – “Ramrod” – Ramrod
Favorite new group – Bruno Mars. He’s got that James Brown thing, and his band must practice their asses off. Not his favorite new music, but appreciates the energy and tightness of the band, and is a fan of any band that is so dedicated to their craft (Metallica, Queensryche, Green Day).
RANK – Ted Nugent albums (ranked by Nugent)
- Self-titled debut album
- Double Live Gonzo
- Cat Scratch Fever
- Free-For-All (with Meat Loaf singing on the album)
- Weekend Warriors
- Scream Dream
- Little Miss Dangerous
- State Of Shock
- Damn Yankees
PICK OF THE WEEK
Eddie – Tribute Concert to Ronnie Montrose
Don – Reverend Horton Heat – “The Rev”
Jim – Nashville Pussy – “Up The Dosage”
METAL MODEM – Biff Byford (SAXON)
Talked about playing with Ted Nugent at Sweden Rock a few years ago. Saxon is working on a new unplugged record, and then planning to go back out on the road. Discussed playing in America again sometime in 2014. They’re currently doing a few headline shows and going back into the studio to start writing the next album. In a surprising turn of events, Biff hung out with Lady Gaga who is a big metal fan, claims that she knows the words to “Princess Of The Night.”
Musical Guest – Bumblefoot
Eddie discussed the 30th radio anniversary at the Hard Rock Café, and showed clips from the event. The night was a who’s who of hard rock and metal. One of the highlights of the night was having Ace Frehley and Peter Criss playing on stage together.
TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT – Motley Crue’s Farewell Tour
Eddie – Takes it because he thinks it’s good to go out on top. Too many bands end up dragging the band name through the mud with replacement players that don’t measure up to the original band members.
Don – Leaves it because he doesn’t believe it. Everyone says that they’re doing a farewell tour, but they never stick to it. He thinks that if someone offers the band a ton of money down the road, they’ll get back together and tour.
Jim – Leaves it because he thinks that there is going to be a void when all of the older metal bands actually retire, and they’re still young enough to keep representing the older generation of metal.
TMS Top 5 – Anthrax Songs
- Caught In The Mosh
- In The End
- I Am The Law
Frankie Bello & David Ellefson (Altitudes and Attitude)
The two discussed how the side project Altitudes and Attitude came to be. Four years ago, during the Big Four shows, they did a bass clinic together for Hartke, and decided to write their own songs. Frankie was insecure about his singing ability, but everyone thinks he’s doing a great job. The EP is something of a curveball, hard rock, not heavy metal or thrash.
Dave talked about releasing his book My Life With Deth. Didn’t want to do a book about slinging dirt and bringing up old problems. Filled with drugs, booze and girls. Feels like he and Mustaine’s books complement each other.
Frankie discussed new Anthrax record. Twelve thrash songs pushing the envelope. Angry kind of vibe to the album.
While discussing the Big Four show that took place at Yankee Stadium, Jim Florentine revealed that Frankie almost didn’t make it to the show. Frankie is a huge Yankee fan, and he was going to jump over the gate before the show started to dive into second base. The security guard warned him that he didn’t care what band he was in, and that he would be arrested if he defied him.
Don does a reading from Ministry: The Lost Gospels According to Al Jourgensen…
“As much as she hated me, Courtney Love ended up sleeping with me, except, I made her shave her giant beaver before I’d get in bed with her. She trimmed it down to sort of a jagged Brazilian landing strip that looked more like a lightning bolt, but it was good enough for me.”
QUESTIONS FROM THE CROWD
Dave, out of all of the concerts that you’ve performed, is there one that stands out?
The first Big Four show in Poland. That was the shot heard round the world for the metal community.
Frank, you’re singing lead on Altitudes and Attitude, how come you never sang lead in Anthrax?
It’s too much work. We have Joey Belladonna, the best singer in the world. I’m still finding myself as a vocalist, but I’m a bass guy.
Frank, what is the funniest prank that you pulled off on tour?
On the Clash Of The Titans tour, we brought a really big fish and hung it in front of Tom Araya (Slayer) during a song. He was laughing so hard that he couldn’t sing.
PUT IT ON THE TABLE
If you could be in any other band – Iron Maiden
Song you wish you wrote – “Highway To Hell” – AC/DC
Best concert you ever attended – KISS – Nassau Coliseum, 1976
First rock or metal song you learned how to play – “Killers” – Iron Maiden
If you could be in any other band – AC/DC
Song you wish you wrote – “Muders In The Rue Morgue” – Iron Maiden
Best concert you ever attended – KISS – Met Center, 1977
First rock or metal song you learned how to play – “Not Fragile” – BTO (rock), “Rapid Fire” – Judas Priest (metal)
ON THE FRINGES
Eddie – Andy Timmons – “That Was Then This Is Now”
Don – Lower The Veil – “Soon”
Jim – The Plasmatics – “Coup D’Etat”
METAL MODEM – Lzzy Hale
Frankie says that he and Dave have an issue with her because Halestorm beat them both out for the Grammy. Lzzy reveals that the song that won it was inspired by both of them, so without them, the song would never have existed. Jim asked her about her thoughts on pop acts using backing tracks and enhancing their sound because they are such a great live band. Lzzy said that it is unfortunately not limited to pop acts, and that rock acts are being told by their labels to do the same thing. Halestorm is writing the new album right now.
EUROPEAN vs. AMERICAN METAL
Bumblefoot – EUROPEAN
Frankie – EUROPEAN
Dave – AMERICAN
Eddie – EUROPEAN
Jim – EUROPEAN
Don – AMERICAN
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